The 7 Myths About Why Women Aren't Funny

By Caroline Gilmour

The issue of women and comedy brings out the worst in people. Before we start, let’s state straight off that the evidence is very much against women when it comes to stand up comedy. Or, at least, there aren’t as many women as men who reach a professional level. Yes there are a few, but for every woman stand-up comedian there are about 500 men, or so it seems. When a woman stand up comic takes the stage, she knows she’s facing lowered expectations.

Women get tetchy when faced with this evidence. Desperate not to give ground despite the evidence to the contrary, they generally quote a number of good female stand-up comedians and deny the whole thing. Men, if they’re intelligent, say something about humour being a kind of Darwinian prerequisite to getting sex. If they’re not intelligent they’ll simply state that men are simply better at everything and then claim as their own the achievements of everyone from Leonardo Da Vinci to Ismbard Kingdom Brunel.

The situation won’t be helped by Germaine Greer’s article in the Guardian, that argues that the lack of female stand up comedians is down to innate and cultural differences between men and women, noticeable from school, that derive from Darwinian male competition. According to Greer women cannot remember jokes or tell them well, cannot do repartee and absolutely cannot do surreal or silly.

Well, let’s get a few things straight:

Myth 1: Stand-up Comedy = Comic Ability

Stand up comedy is not the be all and end all of comedy. In fact, stand up comedy is a pretty freakish occupation that 98% of the population would find terrifying, which is not to say it does not take extreme skill and talent – it does – but it is also no barometer of a gender’s general comic ability. Put most people on ‘Whose Line is it Anyway’ and they will cry.

While female stand-up comics are few and far between, women comedy writers turn up everywhere. Tina Fey is the darling of US sketch-show comedy and many of the writers of extravagantly staffed US sitcoms are women. In the UK, shows like Victoria Wood As Seen on TV, French and Saunders, Nighty Night, and Pulling show women have top-class comic writing talent.

Women can perform - comic actresses are as celebrated as comic actors. Unfortunately one of the greatest of them all – Marilyn Monroe – is often dismissed as a dumb blonde.

Myth 2: Gender is the Only Factor that Impinges on Comic Success

Women don’t often make it as stand up comedians, but neither do people of either gender from minority races, despite notable exceptions. Why? Maybe because the pressures that stop some people from even attempting a comedy career are many and complicated.

In the UK, the Oxbridge universities used to be the primary breeding ground of a certain kind of comedy – notably Monty Python. In the eighties, comedy underwent a kind of revolution – called alternative comedy at the time - and comedians from what are known as the red brick universities broke through. At the time, this was celebrated as a victory against both the traditional, variety-style comedians that came up from the working men’s clubs and the Oxbridge elite. The whole incident shows the influence of class on comic style and success, and puts the idea that gender bias can only be down to innate skill in perspective.

Myth 3: Women Don’t Do Banter

AA Gill once said that stand up comedy is to humour what porn is to sex. In other words, humour is best when you’re doing it, not watching it. For most people, men and women, their friends make them laugh much harder than any professional.

I can only speak from experience when talking about women and banter – I have never had a friendship that wasn’t based on banter and a mutual understanding of what makes the other laugh. And oddly enough, our topics are not usually men, sex, periods or chocolate, they’re anything and everything that might produce a laugh.

This is not a ‘sense of fun’ or boisterousness without any real comic content. Every conversation has to have a punch line, every idea has to be turned on its head, everything is set up for a laugh. If any of us go more than 30 seconds without laughing, we get nervous, and it’s been this way since school.

Myth 4: A Woman Can’t Be Beautiful AND Funny

See Marilyn Monroe, above. Andy Warhol once said: “I used to think that beauty is humourless. Then I remembered that Marilyn Monroe had all the best lines.” Please also see Miranda Richardson, Sarah Silverman etc. That looks should even enter the debate shows how far women have yet to go to actually be regarded as full human beings in the eyes of men.

Myth 5: Women Can’t do Abstract or Surrealist Humour

This is more difficult to argue as there is no Monty Python equivalent penned by women. However, I can offer you ‘Nighty Night’, a sitcom written by Julia Davies that is dark, cruel and surreal. See particularly the scene where she enters the church at her own husband’s funeral – faked by herself – riding a horse side saddle, before performing an expressionistic funeral dance.

Women are also masters of the surreal in story telling – see particularly the works of Angela Carter and Diane Wynne Jones. For an example of where the surreal and the comic meet see Edward Scissorhands – written by Caroline Thompson. Women clearly have the ability to think in surreal and abstract ways; that they haven’t yet displayed this ability in sketch-show format hardly proves they’re lacking in a certain kind imagination.

Myth 6: Men Aren’t Attracted to Funny Women

Do men really want humourless mates? Personally, I don’t believe it. If anyone finds a mate who shares their sense of humour then they’ve won the jackpot of life. Men aren’t so stupid they don’t recognise this.

Myth 7: It’s All to do With Some Kind of Darwinian Competitive Urge

Evolutionary retro-fitting is very popular because it’s so difficult to disprove. Yes, a keen comic wit may give some men a competitive advantage but that doesn’t mean it’s the reason it exists. It’s just as possible our ability to be funny is some kind of stress valve that stops us going insane. No one knows and generalisations do us no good at all.

 

Image: Julia Davies and Ruth Jones in Nighty Night. Source: www.goview.tv


POSTED IN: CULTURE
Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:00 (GMT+00)
4 Responses
1.

THANK you! Nothing gets my blood boiling quite as fast as the smug assertion that women aren't funny or worse, that women aren't as funny as men. I know better. One thing often left out of the equation is the link between humor and power (read Bergson) and that has a lot to do with this fallacy. Well done, Caroline!

K. A. Laity
Tue, 03-Mar-2009 14:07 GMT
2.

It's myths like these that made me smile brightly when a good (male) friend of mine announced that I was one of few people who regularly made him laugh. And I know women who are much funnier than me, so that must mean that the stereotype is bollocks. As you've admirably proved. :)

Alex
Tue, 03-Mar-2009 14:15 GMT
3.

Thanks so much for this article! I live the counterpoints in Myth 3 daily, yet I failed to recognize it quite so fully until now. I love, love, LOVE when people think I'm funny, and I've always had this vague idea that I could be a stand up comedienne if only my funny moments weren't all, "you had to be there," types.
I think I can finally quit pining for the stage and be happy with making my friends laugh.

Misha
Sat, 07-Mar-2009 15:27 GMT
4.

I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's not that women are any less funny than men -- it's that the bias against women in large portions of the stand-up comedy business makes it difficult for them to progress at the rate they need to. Getting ahead in stand-up comedy is ridiculously difficult as it is. Then you add fighting against a system where a substantial portion of the bookers and industry don't trust you, a substantial portion of your fellow comics don't respect you, and a substantial portion of your audience is predisposed not to listen to you... it's a horrific injustice. The entire premise of stand-up is based on trust, and if people are withholding that from you for essentially arbitrary (and bigoted) reasons, you're going to have to struggle a lot harder to get ahead.

Speaking as a male stand-up who's been performing for six years, if I had had to deal with the kind of garbage most women stand-ups go through, I would have quit a dozen times over by now -- probably to go into a field where that issue isn't so prevalent (sketch comedy? writing?) And I'm sure a lot of women do just that; who wants to spend one's life battling a bunch of misogynistic idiots? I'm just glad some people make the effort...

ECN
Thu, 12-Mar-2009 08:26 GMT

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